Warning: Actual guitar content: Fender "Strat-o-Sonic", Fender 1964 Vibroverb RI, Line 6

Discussion in 'rec.music.guitar' started by Odin, Aug 25, 2003.

  1. Odin

    Odin Guest

    Some actual guitar content for a change...

    Played a Fender "Strat-o-Sonic" today at Guitar Center. Honduran
    mahogany body with 5 "tone chambers" makes for a very light and resonant
    guitar. Typical Fender American neck/frets (pretty good on this one),
    butterscotch transparent finish, two P90's that sounded outstanding. I
    wanted to buy it. So has anyone played on of these things? The price tag
    was $1K, I asked for their best deal and they said $800 sans case. I said
    how about $750 with case and the kid wouldn't do it. I know the manager
    pretty well so I'll go back when he's there and see what he can do on the
    price. I was impressed with the tone and feel of this guitar, especially
    the tone. I might by one.

    Also played the new 1964 Vibroverb reissue (one 15" speaker ala SRV).
    It has a "stock or modded" switch on the back that sounded like pulling the
    normal channel preamp tube when on the modded setting. Loud, tight, clean
    but nice drive when the volume gets around 4 or so. I was pretty impressed
    with this amp, much more so than the 1965 Super Reverb reissues I have
    played. Unfortunately the folks at Fender were hitting their crackpipe
    when pricing this bad boy - it was $2499. It's worth maybe half that if
    it's PTP, maybe $699 if it's Fender quality PCB. Sounds good though.

    Heard a band in Florida last week, 3 piece basic bar band. The guitar
    was sounding pretty damn good so I wandered up near the stage. The guy was
    playing a Line 6 guitar with no pickups and a Line 6 amp of indeterminate
    model. His tone was quite good and I was shocked to see it was a modeling
    amp. What's up with that Line 6 guitar thingy with no pickups? Is this
    something new that sounds good or was I drunk?
  2. Re: Warning: Actual guitar content: Fender "Strat-o-Sonic", Fender 1964 Vibroverb RI, Line

    "Odin" <res0jmoj@REMOVEverizon.net> wrote

    > Heard a band in Florida last week, 3 piece basic bar band. The guitar
    > was sounding pretty damn good so I wandered up near the stage. The guy

    was
    > playing a Line 6 guitar with no pickups and a Line 6 amp of indeterminate
    > model. His tone was quite good and I was shocked to see it was a modeling
    > amp. What's up with that Line 6 guitar thingy with no pickups? Is this
    > something new that sounds good or was I drunk?


    I haven't tried one yet, but I'm a believer in
    Line 6's abilities on modeling. I have the Spider 112
    and a Guitar Port; the GPort is a serious kick-ass bit
    o' gear for the recordist, with value far in excess of
    its modest price. All my cotributions to the next
    RMMG CD will be recorded with the GPort and
    the Roland GR-50.

    I also have been futzing with video, lately... any
    takers on some vid for the next collabratron?

    --
    If Toucan, four can
    Six bits, a dollar.
    Reply to me @ toucan@mailblocks.com
  3. Nobody

    Nobody Guest

    Re: Warning: Actual guitar content: Fender "Strat-o-Sonic", Fender 1964 Vibroverb RI, Line

    Odin <res0jmoj@REMOVEverizon.net> wrote in article <nTc2b.10806$vy5.8011@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...

    > Some actual guitar content for a change...


    IMHO it seems that everything you post has a negative vibe to it, Odin.

    I don't mean that mean, I just mean you know that if you were to be honest that you have a lot of aggression and dissatisfaction
    about certain things in your life, and you unfortunately, without realizing it, carry over that stress to rmmg.

    If you try to retort and bite my head off, then that will most definitely prove my point. Please don't and realize that it's an
    observation that a few here seem to get from you and your posts.

    You have done and said some terrible shit, Odin.

    But let's see what you have to say, especially after coming back from your honeymoon, signing on to rmmg, and complaining with your
    first posts.

    > Played a Fender "Strat-o-Sonic" today at Guitar Center. Honduran
    > mahogany body with 5 "tone chambers" makes for a very light and resonant
    > guitar. Typical Fender American neck/frets (pretty good on this one),
    > butterscotch transparent finish, two P90's that sounded outstanding. I
    > wanted to buy it. So has anyone played on of these things? The price tag
    > was $1K, I asked for their best deal and they said $800 sans case. I said
    > how about $750 with case and the kid wouldn't do it. I know the manager
    > pretty well so I'll go back when he's there and see what he can do on the
    > price. I was impressed with the tone and feel of this guitar, especially
    > the tone. I might by one.


    It's designed by Fender to be especially made for drop tunings, like I use.

    So I wonder why get it? Are you planning to use it with standard tuning?

    > Also played the new 1964 Vibroverb reissue (one 15" speaker ala SRV).
    > It has a "stock or modded" switch on the back that sounded like pulling the
    > normal channel preamp tube when on the modded setting. Loud, tight, clean
    > but nice drive when the volume gets around 4 or so. I was pretty impressed
    > with this amp, much more so than the 1965 Super Reverb reissues I have
    > played. Unfortunately the folks at Fender were hitting their crackpipe
    > when pricing this bad boy - it was $2499. It's worth maybe half that if
    > it's PTP, maybe $699 if it's Fender quality PCB. Sounds good though.



    Cool.

    > Heard a band in Florida last week, 3 piece basic bar band. The guitar
    > was sounding pretty damn good so I wandered up near the stage. The guy was
    > playing a Line 6 guitar with no pickups and a Line 6 amp of indeterminate
    > model. His tone was quite good and I was shocked to see it was a modeling
    > amp. What's up with that Line 6 guitar thingy with no pickups?


    The Line 6 Variac guitar...its a modeling guitar as well.

    >Is this something new that sounds good or was I drunk?


    You said it "...was sounding pretty damn good", so there you go.


    --
    Jason
    http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs
  4. Nunya Bidni

    Nunya Bidni Guest

    Re: Warning: Actual guitar content: Fender "Strat-o-Sonic", Fender 1964 Vibroverb RI, Line

    "Nobody" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> wrote in message
    news:01c36aa5$5d34df00$fec8580c@715162529worldnet.att.net...

    > > Played a Fender "Strat-o-Sonic" today at Guitar Center. Honduran
    > > mahogany body with 5 "tone chambers" makes for a very light and resonant
    > > guitar. Typical Fender American neck/frets (pretty good on this one),
    > > butterscotch transparent finish, two P90's that sounded outstanding. I
    > > wanted to buy it. So has anyone played on of these things? The price

    tag
    > > was $1K, I asked for their best deal and they said $800 sans case. I

    said
    > > how about $750 with case and the kid wouldn't do it. I know the manager
    > > pretty well so I'll go back when he's there and see what he can do on

    the
    > > price. I was impressed with the tone and feel of this guitar,

    especially
    > > the tone. I might by one.

    >
    > It's designed by Fender to be especially made for drop tunings, like I

    use.

    What gave you that idea? It's a chambered Strat body with a pair of soapbar
    pickups. Standard scale, et cetera.
  5. Nobody

    Nobody Guest

    Re: Warning: Actual guitar content: Fender "Strat-o-Sonic", Fender 1964 Vibroverb RI, Line

    Nunya Bidni <bothersomeoneelse@home.com> wrote in article <Cud2b.15177$Ih1.4800001@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com>...

    > > It's designed by Fender to be especially made for drop tunings, like I

    > use.
    >
    > What gave you that idea? It's a chambered Strat body with a pair of soapbar
    > pickups. Standard scale, et cetera.


    My mistake.... I was thinking of the "Sub-Sonic".

    --
    Jason
    http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs
  6. Odin

    Odin Guest

    Re: Warning: Actual guitar content: Fender "Strat-o-Sonic", Fender 1964 Vibroverb RI, Line

    "Nobody" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> wrote in message

    > > Some actual guitar content for a change...

    >
    > IMHO it seems that everything you post has a negative vibe to it, Odin.


    OK.

    > I don't mean that mean, I just mean you know that if you were to be

    honest that you have a lot of aggression and
    > dissatisfaction about certain things in your life, and you unfortunately,

    without realizing it, carry over that stress to rmmg.

    Wow. You're the worst judge of character I've ever met then. And I don't
    mean that mean, it's just that I don't have any aggression or
    dissatisfaction about anything in my life and I don't even know what stress
    is. Get this - I "work", if you can call it work, less than just about
    everybody I know, I don't have a boss telling me what to do or looking over
    my shoulder, I live in a warm climate where I go fishing and ride my
    motorcycle year round, I hang out with friends and drink beer, gig about
    75-100 times per year and basically just have a good time. I don't have
    any (known) medical problems, don't owe anybody any money, have a new truck
    and a new bike, live in a nice neighborhood, pay the bills on time and
    sleep in a lot. If you knew me, or even if you met me, I'd have to say
    that you would agree that I'm a non-aggressive, non-stressed person. A few
    from RMMG have met me and several talk to me on a regular basis. I think
    they could also tell you that I'm not as you assume. No big deal, it's
    just that I don't understand where you see aggression and stress in me. Is
    it possible that you are projecting?


    > If you try to retort and bite my head off, then that will most definitely

    prove my point. Please don't and realize that it's an
    > observation that a few here seem to get from you and your posts.


    A few are very sensitive and uptight. The rest of us handle things quite
    well. No offense intended to the few.


    > You have done and said some terrible shit, Odin.


    Yes, I have. Not here, and not lately, but I have. And that's in the
    past. I've made mistakes, paid my debt to society, etc...and now I'm a
    laid back asshole.


    > But let's see what you have to say, especially after coming back from

    your honeymoon, signing on to rmmg, and complaining
    > with your first posts.


    If you thought I was complaining you took it wrong.


    > > Played a Fender "Strat-o-Sonic" today at Guitar Center. Honduran
    > > mahogany body with 5 "tone chambers" makes for a very light and

    resonant
    > > guitar. Typical Fender American neck/frets (pretty good on this one),
    > > butterscotch transparent finish, two P90's that sounded outstanding. I
    > > wanted to buy it. So has anyone played on of these things? The price

    tag
    > > was $1K, I asked for their best deal and they said $800 sans case. I

    said
    > > how about $750 with case and the kid wouldn't do it. I know the

    manager
    > > pretty well so I'll go back when he's there and see what he can do on

    the
    > > price. I was impressed with the tone and feel of this guitar,

    especially
    > > the tone. I might by one.

    >
    > It's designed by Fender to be especially made for drop tunings, like I

    use.

    I think you're wrong. It's a Strat with 2 P90's, that's all.


    > So I wonder why get it? Are you planning to use it with standard tuning?


    Standard tuning or maybe some open G stuff.


    > > Also played the new 1964 Vibroverb reissue (one 15" speaker ala

    SRV).
    > > It has a "stock or modded" switch on the back that sounded like pulling

    the
    > > normal channel preamp tube when on the modded setting. Loud, tight,

    clean
    > > but nice drive when the volume gets around 4 or so. I was pretty

    impressed
    > > with this amp, much more so than the 1965 Super Reverb reissues I have
    > > played. Unfortunately the folks at Fender were hitting their crackpipe
    > > when pricing this bad boy - it was $2499. It's worth maybe half that

    if
    > > it's PTP, maybe $699 if it's Fender quality PCB. Sounds good though.

    >
    >
    > Cool.


    Cool, but overpriced.


    > > Heard a band in Florida last week, 3 piece basic bar band. The

    guitar
    > > was sounding pretty damn good so I wandered up near the stage. The guy

    was
    > > playing a Line 6 guitar with no pickups and a Line 6 amp of

    indeterminate
    > > model. His tone was quite good and I was shocked to see it was a

    modeling
    > > amp. What's up with that Line 6 guitar thingy with no pickups?

    >
    > The Line 6 Variac guitar...its a modeling guitar as well.


    I don't get it. Does it only work with a specific amp?


    > >Is this something new that sounds good or was I drunk?

    >
    > You said it "...was sounding pretty damn good", so there you go.


    Well, I definitely want to find one and play it for a while now. It was a
    moderately quiet 3-piece band, so I couldn't really tell if it would cut
    through a live rock and roll mix like ours (most SS amps get lost in a busy
    mix) but I'm interested.

    I think you're either getting the wrong vibe from me or overanalyzing
    something. I'm not aggressive, I just have a lot of time on my hands and
    like to spar with people. If you troll past me with something resembling
    an argument I'll probably bite. Doesn't mean I get all worked up over the
    argument, it's just a hobby of mine.
  7. Re: Warning: Actual guitar content: Fender "Strat-o-Sonic", Fender 1964 Vibroverb RI, Line

    "Odin" <res0jmoj@REMOVEverizon.net> wrote

    > I don't get it. Does it only work with a specific amp?


    Nope, it'll work with any amp. Check out
    http://www.line6.com/variax/ for more info.

    --
    If Toucan, four can
    Six bits, a dollar.
    Reply to me @ toucan@mailblocks.com
  8. Atlas

    Atlas Guest

    Re: Warning: Actual guitar content: Fender "Strat-o-Sonic", Fender 1964 Vibroverb RI, Line

    x-no-archive: yes

    On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 06:41:15 GMT, "Odin" <res0jmoj@REMOVEverizon.net>
    wrote:

    >Wow. You're the worst judge of character I've ever met then.


    Look at who made the comment. He's wrong 99.9% of the
    time...so why act surprised here?



    Atlas

    --
    http://www.geocities.com/cbpdoc/DiscHerniation_Main.html
  9. howldog

    howldog Guest

    Re: Warning: Actual guitar content: Fender "Strat-o-Sonic", Fender 1964 Vibroverb RI, Line

    On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:08:46 GMT, "Nobody"
    <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> wrote:


    >> Some actual guitar content for a change...

    >
    >IMHO it seems that everything you post has a negative vibe to it, Odin.



    give it a rest.

    he posts an honest, guitar content post, and you have to make some
    kind of objection based on his "personality"?


    Odin, about the Line 6 stuff, i've heard some guys sound good on that
    stuff, and others sound horrible. Probably the same could be said
    about any kind of guitar-amp combination.

    If yer used to the sort of "kick" you get from a loud tube amp behind
    you, i dont think the Line 6 stuff really delivers that. At least, i
    havent ever experienced it. It always sounded compressed as hell, to
    me. The POD for example, has a good tweed patch, and a good
    rectum-fryer patch. but lots of the other stuff, to me, sounded awful,
    to me anyway.

    That being said, no, i've never tried it at a gig, only at a store or
    the recording studio.... I would try it if i had an opportunity. I
    could see how it could be really effective for a cover band gig.
  10. Nobody

    Nobody Guest

    Re: Warning: Actual guitar content: Fender "Strat-o-Sonic", Fender 1964 Vibroverb RI, Line

    Atlas <c1sublux@hotmail.comNOSPAM> wrote in article <cs6kkvcirog17t3gfjskmbea571is8movf@4ax.com>...

    > Look at who made the comment. He's wrong 99.9% of the
    > time...


    Inaccurate.

    I have sufficiently proven you wrong more times than are countable.

    --
    Jason
    http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs
  11. Odin

    Odin Guest

    Re: Warning: Actual guitar content: Fender "Strat-o-Sonic", Fender 1964 Vibroverb RI, Line

    "howldog" <howldogAINTNOSPAMAGNET@yahoo.com> wrote in
    message

    > Odin, about the Line 6 stuff, i've heard some guys sound

    good on that
    > stuff, and others sound horrible. Probably the same could

    be said
    > about any kind of guitar-amp combination.
    >
    > If yer used to the sort of "kick" you get from a loud tube

    amp behind
    > you, i dont think the Line 6 stuff really delivers that.

    At least, i
    > havent ever experienced it. It always sounded compressed

    as hell, to
    > me. The POD for example, has a good tweed patch, and a

    good
    > rectum-fryer patch. but lots of the other stuff, to me,

    sounded awful,
    > to me anyway.
    >
    > That being said, no, i've never tried it at a gig, only at

    a store or
    > the recording studio.... I would try it if i had an

    opportunity. I
    > could see how it could be really effective for a cover

    band gig.

    This guy I heard was switching from lead tones to clean
    tones to everything in-between, and it all sounded fair to
    good. So I went online this morning and checked out the
    Line 6 website. They have sound clips of the Variax
    guitar's model sounds. Every single sound clip on the Line
    6 site sounds absolutely horrible. I guess I'll just have
    to try one at Guitar Center. I'm not afraid to crank up and
    amp to gig volumes and jam for a while at GC so I'll give it
    the test next time I'm in GC of they have one available.
  12. Re: Warning: Actual guitar content: Fender "Strat-o-Sonic", Fender 1964 Vibroverb RI, Line

    "howldog" <howldogAINTNOSPAMAGNET@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:5v9kkvojeu8djtk67n2eakg0b20gvj1eqe@4ax.com...
    > On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:08:46 GMT, "Nobody"
    > <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> wrote:


    > >IMHO it seems that everything you post has a negative vibe to it, Odin.


    > give it a rest.


    (then I snipped the guitar related content in which I totally agreed)

    It's the main reason I hate "Polfus" posts... Turns this NG into a negative
    environment. The more I read, the more I wanna' crawl back into my hole.
    "Polfus" MUST take every beef and publicize it live, right here, and start
    NEW threads with different screen names to draw attention to the war. The
    latest being "Atlass"... That crap needs to be taken OFFline...

    Jesus fucking Christ Jason/Polfus... Get a life.

    Jeff
  13. Re: Warning: Actual guitar content: Fender "Strat-o-Sonic", Fender 1964 Vibroverb RI, Line

    Jeff Liberatore> wrote:

    >> >IMHO it seems that everything you post has a negative vibe to it, Odin.

    >
    >> give it a rest.

    >
    >(then I snipped the guitar related content in which I totally agreed)
    >
    >It's the main reason I hate "Polfus" posts... Turns this NG into a negative
    >environment. The more I read, the more I wanna' crawl back into my hole.
    >"Polfus" MUST take every beef and publicize it live, right here, and start
    >NEW threads with different screen names to draw attention to the war. The
    >latest being "Atlass"... That crap needs to be taken OFFline...
    >
    >Jesus fucking Christ Jason/Polfus... Get a life.


    Not gonna happen, but the simple "no likee, no clickee" philosophy
    of lord valve absolutely works wonders for dealing with the polfarce
    poopyhead. I gotta admit though, he probably keeps the valid traffic
    in this place down from what it could be if he'd just go away.

    Texas Pete
  14. Mondoslug1

    Mondoslug1 Guest

    Re: Warning: Actual guitar content: Fender "Strat-o-Sonic", Fender 1964 Vibroverb RI, Line

    Odin wrote:

    >"howldog" <howldogAINTNOSPAMAGNET@yahoo.com> wrote in
    >message
    >
    >> Odin, about the Line 6 stuff, i've heard some guys sound

    >good on that
    >> stuff, and others sound horrible. Probably the same could

    >be said
    >> about any kind of guitar-amp combination.
    >>
    >> If yer used to the sort of "kick" you get from a loud tube

    >amp behind
    >> you, i dont think the Line 6 stuff really delivers that.

    >At least, i
    >> havent ever experienced it. It always sounded compressed

    >as hell, to
    >> me. The POD for example, has a good tweed patch, and a

    >good
    >> rectum-fryer patch. but lots of the other stuff, to me,

    >sounded awful,
    >> to me anyway.
    >>
    >> That being said, no, i've never tried it at a gig, only at

    >a store or
    >> the recording studio.... I would try it if i had an

    >opportunity. I
    >> could see how it could be really effective for a cover

    >band gig.
    >
    >This guy I heard was switching from lead tones to clean
    >tones to everything in-between, and it all sounded fair to
    >good. So I went online this morning and checked out the
    >Line 6 website. They have sound clips of the Variax
    >guitar's model sounds. Every single sound clip on the Line
    >6 site sounds absolutely horrible. I guess I'll just have
    >to try one at Guitar Center. I'm not afraid to crank up and
    >amp to gig volumes and jam for a while at GC so I'll give it
    >the test next time I'm in GC of they have one available.
    >


    Odifus, you've only been married a week & already it's tweaked your southern
    fried brain even more. I don't see you as a Line 6 Variax kind of dEwD, dood.






    My tunes at:
    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/andymostmusic.htm
  15. Re: Warning: Actual guitar content: Fender "Strat-o-Sonic", Fender 1964 Vibroverb RI, Line

    I bought the second Variax in my town (a friend got the first). I gigged
    with it. Once. The sounds were pretty good, but it was a pain to use live
    because the different sounds emulate the output of the original guitars.
    So, start a song with a Les Paul model and switch to a strat for verses and
    your volume drops so much that you can't be heard. We don't use a soundman
    and I use my clean boost pedal for a lead boost. So, the guitar was
    unusable for me live. I returned it.




    "Mondoslug1" <mondoslug1@aol.com> wrote in message
    news:20030825222147.12042.00000581@mb-m20.aol.com...
    > Odin wrote:
    >
    > >"howldog" <howldogAINTNOSPAMAGNET@yahoo.com> wrote in
    > >message
    > >
    > >> Odin, about the Line 6 stuff, i've heard some guys sound

    > >good on that
    > >> stuff, and others sound horrible. Probably the same could

    > >be said
    > >> about any kind of guitar-amp combination.
    > >>
    > >> If yer used to the sort of "kick" you get from a loud tube

    > >amp behind
    > >> you, i dont think the Line 6 stuff really delivers that.

    > >At least, i
    > >> havent ever experienced it. It always sounded compressed

    > >as hell, to
    > >> me. The POD for example, has a good tweed patch, and a

    > >good
    > >> rectum-fryer patch. but lots of the other stuff, to me,

    > >sounded awful,
    > >> to me anyway.
    > >>
    > >> That being said, no, i've never tried it at a gig, only at

    > >a store or
    > >> the recording studio.... I would try it if i had an

    > >opportunity. I
    > >> could see how it could be really effective for a cover

    > >band gig.
    > >
    > >This guy I heard was switching from lead tones to clean
    > >tones to everything in-between, and it all sounded fair to
    > >good. So I went online this morning and checked out the
    > >Line 6 website. They have sound clips of the Variax
    > >guitar's model sounds. Every single sound clip on the Line
    > >6 site sounds absolutely horrible. I guess I'll just have
    > >to try one at Guitar Center. I'm not afraid to crank up and
    > >amp to gig volumes and jam for a while at GC so I'll give it
    > >the test next time I'm in GC of they have one available.
    > >

    >
    > Odifus, you've only been married a week & already it's tweaked your

    southern
    > fried brain even more. I don't see you as a Line 6 Variax kind of dEwD,

    dood.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > My tunes at:
    > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/andymostmusic.htm
    >
    >
  16. Odin

    Odin Guest

    Re: Warning: Actual guitar content: Fender "Strat-o-Sonic", Fender 1964 Vibroverb RI, Line

    "Mondoslug1" <mondoslug1@aol.com> wrote in message

    > >This guy I heard was switching from lead tones to clean
    > >tones to everything in-between, and it all sounded fair to
    > >good. So I went online this morning and checked out the
    > >Line 6 website. They have sound clips of the Variax
    > >guitar's model sounds. Every single sound clip on the Line
    > >6 site sounds absolutely horrible. I guess I'll just have
    > >to try one at Guitar Center. I'm not afraid to crank up and
    > >amp to gig volumes and jam for a while at GC so I'll give it
    > >the test next time I'm in GC of they have one available.
    > >

    > Odifus, you've only been married a week & already it's tweaked your

    southern
    > fried brain even more. I don't see you as a Line 6 Variax kind of dEwD,

    dood.

    Nor do I. But it was interesting enough that I'll probably spend an hour
    dicking around with one. I have yet to hear a SS amp that sounds 50% as
    good as a decent tube amp, but that doesn't mean I'm not willing to waste
    my time trying them all.
  17. Odin

    Odin Guest

    Re: Warning: Actual guitar content: Fender "Strat-o-Sonic", Fender 1964 Vibroverb RI, Line

    "David Eidelberg" <DavidEidelberg@msn.com> wrote in message

    > I bought the second Variax in my town (a friend got the first). I gigged
    > with it. Once. The sounds were pretty good, but it was a pain to use

    live
    > because the different sounds emulate the output of the original guitars.
    > So, start a song with a Les Paul model and switch to a strat for verses

    and
    > your volume drops so much that you can't be heard. We don't use a

    soundman
    > and I use my clean boost pedal for a lead boost. So, the guitar was
    > unusable for me live. I returned it.


    Never thought of that. Apparently neither did the people at Line 6. Which
    just proves once again that these modeling toys are designed for bedroom
    wankers and not working musicians. Level matching would be an obvious
    feature that I would have assumed was engineered into the instrument.
    Maybe it's a cool home recording toy.
  18. Re: Warning: Actual guitar content: Fender "Strat-o-Sonic", Fender 1964 Vibroverb RI, Line

    Neither did Guitar Player in their "review" / advertisement cover story. My
    letter to the editor about this "issue" was published though.


    "Odin" <res0jmoj@REMOVEverizon.net> wrote in message
    news:DeA2b.13554$081.12115@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
    >
    > "David Eidelberg" <DavidEidelberg@msn.com> wrote in message
    >
    > > I bought the second Variax in my town (a friend got the first). I

    gigged
    > > with it. Once. The sounds were pretty good, but it was a pain to use

    > live
    > > because the different sounds emulate the output of the original guitars.
    > > So, start a song with a Les Paul model and switch to a strat for verses

    > and
    > > your volume drops so much that you can't be heard. We don't use a

    > soundman
    > > and I use my clean boost pedal for a lead boost. So, the guitar was
    > > unusable for me live. I returned it.

    >
    > Never thought of that. Apparently neither did the people at Line 6.

    Which
    > just proves once again that these modeling toys are designed for bedroom
    > wankers and not working musicians. Level matching would be an obvious
    > feature that I would have assumed was engineered into the instrument.
    > Maybe it's a cool home recording toy.
    >
    >
  19. Odin

    Odin Guest

    Re: Warning: Actual guitar content: Fender "Strat-o-Sonic", Fender 1964 Vibroverb RI, Line

    "David Eidelberg" <DavidEidelberg@msn.com> wrote in message

    > Neither did Guitar Player in their "review" /

    advertisement cover story. My
    > letter to the editor about this "issue" was published

    though.

    Most likely because the person who played the guitar and
    wrote the review has never been a working guitarist.
    Besides, guitar reviews are paid advertisements, not
    reviews. I have yet to read a bad review about anything in
    a guitar magazine. And every amp they review amazingly
    sounds good.



    > "Odin" <res0jmoj@REMOVEverizon.net> wrote in message
    > news:DeA2b.13554$081.12115@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
    > >
    > > "David Eidelberg" <DavidEidelberg@msn.com> wrote in

    message
    > >
    > > > I bought the second Variax in my town (a friend got

    the first). I
    > gigged
    > > > with it. Once. The sounds were pretty good, but it

    was a pain to use
    > > live
    > > > because the different sounds emulate the output of the

    original guitars.
    > > > So, start a song with a Les Paul model and switch to a

    strat for verses
    > > and
    > > > your volume drops so much that you can't be heard. We

    don't use a
    > > soundman
    > > > and I use my clean boost pedal for a lead boost. So,

    the guitar was
    > > > unusable for me live. I returned it.

    > >
    > > Never thought of that. Apparently neither did the

    people at Line 6.
    > Which
    > > just proves once again that these modeling toys are

    designed for bedroom
    > > wankers and not working musicians. Level matching would

    be an obvious
    > > feature that I would have assumed was engineered into

    the instrument.
    > > Maybe it's a cool home recording toy.
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
  20. howldog

    howldog Guest

    Re: Warning: Actual guitar content: Fender "Strat-o-Sonic", Fender 1964 Vibroverb RI, Line

    On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 03:12:35 GMT, "Odin" <res0jmoj@REMOVEverizon.net>
    wrote:


    >Never thought of that. Apparently neither did the people at Line 6. Which
    >just proves once again that these modeling toys are designed for bedroom
    >wankers and not working musicians. Level matching would be an obvious
    >feature that I would have assumed was engineered into the instrument.
    >Maybe it's a cool home recording toy.



    level matching can be a problem anyway. Wouldnt there be some way to
    tweak the patches or something?

    I thoght you said you saw a guy using all this shit in a club.. if he
    sounded alright, shirley there must be some way to get it going.

    to me, too much trouble.

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