What is it called when?

Discussion in 'rec.audio.pro' started by Julian Russell, Jul 18, 2003.

  1. In article <K8XRa.9725$7O.5089@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>, Julian Russell
    <info@magpiesound.com> wrote:

    >a question for the rap brain trust
    >
    >you have a tune... the lyric sings, for instance, "stop" and the music
    >stops... or... " slow" and the music slows... etc...
    >
    >there is a term for it and it escapes me...


    When the music slows it's a ritard, not retard. When it stops it's
    usually called a stop beat, although rest works too.


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  2. Mike Rivers

    Mike Rivers Guest

    In article <K8XRa.9725$7O.5089@nwrdny01.gnilink.net> info@magpiesound.com writes:

    > you have a tune... the lyric sings, for instance, "stop" and the music
    > stops... or... " slow" and the music slows... etc...
    >
    > there is a term for it and it escapes me...


    The end of the song.


    --
    I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)
  3. Mondoslug1

    Mondoslug1 Guest

    >
    >
    >Julian Russell wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> another example... a lyric says "knock.. and the drummer goes 'rap,rap,
    >> rap', on the rim....

    >



    I was working for this C&W artist did this dumb ass tune aboout getting caught
    in a motel room with the wrong person, "and there was a knock on the
    door"...usually accompanied by drums going rap rap rap.
    Crew sent out on stage a moving Energizer Rabbit they'd found that
    day.............he kicked the shit out of it into the audience. Didn't like
    surprises I guess. Nothing was ever said. Hit a chick in audience in the chest
    with it also when he kicked it.
    >tacky
    >--
    >Fletcher
    >Mercenary Audio
    >TEL: 508-543-0069
    >FAX: 508-543-9670
    >http://www.mercenary.com
    >"this is not a problem"
    >
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    My tunes at:
    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/andymostmusic.htm
  4. Mondoslug1

    Mondoslug1 Guest

    >
    >In article <K8XRa.9725$7O.5089@nwrdny01.gnilink.net> info@magpiesound.com
    >writes:
    >
    >> you have a tune... the lyric sings, for instance, "stop" and the music
    >> stops... or... " slow" and the music slows... etc...
    >>
    >> there is a term for it and it escapes me...

    >
    >The end of the song.
    >
    >
    >--
    >I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)
    >

    fermatta, birdseye..I dunno



    My tunes at:
    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/andymostmusic.htm
  5. >
    > tacky
    > --


    we have a winner!

    but lots of silly stuff needs a name....

    Julian Russell
    http://magpiesound.com




    "Fletcher" <Fletcher@mercenary.com> wrote in message
    news:3F18F41C.4EB81C65@mercenary.com...
    >
    >
    > Julian Russell wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > another example... a lyric says "knock.. and the drummer goes 'rap,rap,
    > > rap', on the rim....

    >
    > tacky
    > --
    > Fletcher
    > Mercenary Audio
    > TEL: 508-543-0069
    > FAX: 508-543-9670
    > http://www.mercenary.com
    > "this is not a problem"
    >
    >
  6. um... it will come to me. Thanks for all the valiant stabs. I remember
    reading the term a month or so ago (but not where) and tried to make a
    mental note (hey.. that's cool.. that has a name!) but the ole noggin failed
    me.

    An onomatopoeia ( which is probable the closest, but not it ) is when a
    words sounds like what it is describing... another cool word but..

    Julian Russell
    http://magpiesound.com





    "Julian Russell" <info@magpiesound.com> wrote in message
    news:K8XRa.9725$7O.5089@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
    > a question for the rap brain trust
    >
    > you have a tune... the lyric sings, for instance, "stop" and the music
    > stops... or... " slow" and the music slows... etc...
    >
    > there is a term for it and it escapes me...
    >
    > thanks
    >
    > Julian Russell
    > http://magpiesound.com
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
  7. yes, frustrtated pirate

    Julian Russell
    http:///magpiesound.com


    "Chris Hornbeck" <guyville@removethisaristotle.net> wrote in message
    news:i2kghvkt3f0gq7hj4dmk3pf890650sm959@4ax.com...
    > On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:32:08 GMT, "Julian Russell"
    > <info@magpiesound.com> wrote:
    >
    > > it's on the tip of my tongue.... arrrrr...

    >
    > Is this a Pirate term?
    >
    >
    >
    > Chris Hornbeck,
    > guyville{at}aristotle{dot}net
    > question Authority
    >
  8. Mike

    Mike Guest

    "Julian Russell" <info@magpiesound.com> wrote in message news:<K8XRa.9725$7O.5089@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>...
    > a question for the rap brain trust
    >
    > you have a tune... the lyric sings, for instance, "stop" and the music
    > stops... or... " slow" and the music slows... etc...
    >
    > there is a term for it and it escapes me...
    >
    > thanks
    >
    > Julian Russell
    > http://magpiesound.com


    That's called acoustamatopoeia.


    Mike http://www.mmeproductions.com
  9. Tmuska

    Tmuska Guest

    There is a musical term from Renaissance vocal music called "text painting" or
    "word painting" where the music matches the text. Running up the hill =
    ascending line. "Two by two" has two voices. Birds singing is matched by violin
    trills, etc. There's probably a more contemporary term for this - Or someone
    will come up with one.
    Terry
    TMuska@aol.com
  10. That's *exactly* the idea... but not the word!

    Thanks Terry


    "Tmuska" <tmuska@aol.com> wrote in message
    news:20030719122757.01143.00000354@mb-m22.aol.com...
    > There is a musical term from Renaissance vocal music called "text

    painting" or
    > "word painting" where the music matches the text. Running up the hill =
    > ascending line. "Two by two" has two voices. Birds singing is matched by

    violin
    > trills, etc. There's probably a more contemporary term for this - Or

    someone
    > will come up with one.
    > Terry
    > TMuska@aol.com
  11. crow

    crow Guest

    "Julian Russell" <info@magpiesound.com> wrote in message
    news:AGcSa.12994$7O.12531@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
    > um... it will come to me. Thanks for all the valiant stabs. I remember
    > reading the term a month or so ago (but not where) and tried to make a
    > mental note (hey.. that's cool.. that has a name!) but the ole noggin

    failed
    > me.
    >
    > An onomatopoeia ( which is probable the closest, but not it ) is when a
    > words sounds like what it is describing... another cool word but..
    >
    > Julian Russell
    > http://magpiesound.com
    > and the music
    > > stops... or... " slow" and the music slows... etc...
    > >
    > > there is a term for it and it escapes me...
    > >
    > > thanks
    > >
    > > Julian Russell
    > > http://magpiesound.com




    Tacet?
  12. On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:38:34 GMT, "Julian Russell"
    <info@magpiesound.com> wrote:

    >you have a tune... the lyric sings, for instance, "stop" and the music
    >stops... or... " slow" and the music slows... etc...
    >
    >there is a term for it and it escapes me...


    Do you get the NPR show "Says You" where you are? Maybe
    you could ask them. Maybe start at:

    http://www.wgbh.org/wgbh/radio/saysyou/

    Good Hunting,

    Chris Hornbeck,
    guyville{at}aristotle{dot}net
    question Authority
  13. Bryson

    Bryson Guest

    A $40 a night bar gig.



    Julian Russell wrote:
    > a question for the rap brain trust
    >
    > you have a tune... the lyric sings, for instance, "stop" and the music
    > stops... or... " slow" and the music slows... etc...
    >
    > there is a term for it and it escapes me...
    >
    > thanks
    >
    > Julian Russell
    > http://magpiesound.com
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
  14. Bryson

    Bryson Guest

    Tmuska wrote:

    > There is a musical term from Renaissance vocal music called "text painting" or
    > "word painting" where the music matches the text. Running up the hill =
    > ascending line. "Two by two" has two voices. Birds singing is matched by violin
    > trills, etc. There's probably a more contemporary term for this - Or someone
    > will come up with one.


    A Carl Stallingism.
  15. Bryson

    Bryson Guest

    Mondoslug1 wrote:

    >>
    >>Julian Russell wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>another example... a lyric says "knock.. and the drummer goes 'rap,rap,
    >>>rap', on the rim....

    >>

    >
    >
    > I was working for this C&W artist did this dumb ass tune aboout getting caught
    > in a motel room with the wrong person, "and there was a knock on the
    > door"...usually accompanied by drums going rap rap rap.
    > Crew sent out on stage a moving Energizer Rabbit they'd found that
    > day.............he kicked the shit out of it into the audience. Didn't like
    > surprises I guess.


    What a wuss.

    Nothing was ever said. Hit a chick in audience in the chest
    > with it also when he kicked it.
    >
    >>tacky
    >>--
    >>Fletcher
    >>Mercenary Audio
    >>TEL: 508-543-0069
    >>FAX: 508-543-9670
    >>http://www.mercenary.com
    >>"this is not a problem"
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > My tunes at:
    > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/andymostmusic.htm
    >
    >
  16. Bryson

    Bryson Guest

    Mike Rivers wrote:

    > In article <K8XRa.9725$7O.5089@nwrdny01.gnilink.net> info@magpiesound.com writes:
    >
    >
    >>you have a tune... the lyric sings, for instance, "stop" and the music
    >>stops... or... " slow" and the music slows... etc...
    >>
    >>there is a term for it and it escapes me...

    >
    >
    > The end of the song.



    Last call!



    >
    >
    > --
    > I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)
  17. Bryson

    Bryson Guest

    Julian Russell wrote:

    > um... it will come to me. Thanks for all the valiant stabs. I remember
    > reading the term a month or so ago (but not where) and tried to make a
    > mental note (hey.. that's cool.. that has a name!) but the ole noggin failed
    > me.


    Yeah, mental notes used to work for me too, but now I've gotta
    buy stickies....... and reading glasses.


    Timmy


    >
    > An onomatopoeia ( which is probable the closest, but not it ) is when a
    > words sounds like what it is describing... another cool word but..
    >
    > Julian Russell
    > http://magpiesound.com
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > "Julian Russell" <info@magpiesound.com> wrote in message
    > news:K8XRa.9725$7O.5089@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
    >
    >>a question for the rap brain trust
    >>
    >>you have a tune... the lyric sings, for instance, "stop" and the music
    >>stops... or... " slow" and the music slows... etc...
    >>
    >>there is a term for it and it escapes me...
    >>
    >>thanks
    >>
    >>Julian Russell
    >>http://magpiesound.com
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    >
  18. Mondoslug1

    Mondoslug1 Guest

    redbugg wrote:

    >Mondoslug1 wrote:
    >
    >>>
    >>>Julian Russell wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>another example... a lyric says "knock.. and the drummer goes 'rap,rap,
    >>>>rap', on the rim....
    >>>

    >>
    >>
    >> I was working for this C&W artist did this dumb ass tune aboout getting

    >caught
    >> in a motel room with the wrong person, "and there was a knock on the
    >> door"...usually accompanied by drums going rap rap rap.
    >> Crew sent out on stage a moving Energizer Rabbit they'd found that
    >> day.............he kicked the shit out of it into the audience. Didn't like
    >> surprises I guess.

    >
    >What a wuss.
    >



    Capital W.
  19. YES!!!

    Of course... I read it in Mixerman!!

    Thanks!

    Julian Russell
    http://magpiesound.com



    "Ralph & Diane Barone" <rdbarone@shaw.ca> wrote in message
    news:BB40B6EC9668113E22@192.168.0....
    > In article <20030719002512.07566.00000120@mb-m14.aol.com>,
    > pugnut99@aol.com (Pugnut99) wrote:
    >
    > >Cymbalism

    >
    > Dammit, this question's been driving me crazy for the last couple days,
    > since I remember seeing the answer SOMEWHERE before, and I thought it was
    > on rec.audio.pro.
    >
    > PROSODY! From the Mixerman chronicles, 21 Nov 2002
    >
    > Then, one must consider the fact that without a lyric, one relinquishes

    the
    > possibility of the use of prosody; that-is performing the music so as to
    > take the lyric literally. The simplest example of this being the music
    > stopping on the word "Stop" which happens in countless songs. "Stop...In
    > the name of love."; You gotta stop...children, what's that sound,

    everybody
    > look what's goin' round."
    >
    > Man, I better get a prize for this...
    >
    >
  20. Oh... yes, as to your prize... many thanks.. and if you are ever in Boston,
    I'll buy you a beer.. or coffee or whatever you pleaseure.

    That word has really been bugging me!

    Julian Russell
    http://magpiesound.com


    "Ralph & Diane Barone" <rdbarone@shaw.ca> wrote in message
    news:BB40B6EC9668113E22@192.168.0....
    > In article <20030719002512.07566.00000120@mb-m14.aol.com>,
    > pugnut99@aol.com (Pugnut99) wrote:
    >
    > >Cymbalism

    >
    > Dammit, this question's been driving me crazy for the last couple days,
    > since I remember seeing the answer SOMEWHERE before, and I thought it was
    > on rec.audio.pro.
    >
    > PROSODY! From the Mixerman chronicles, 21 Nov 2002
    >
    > Then, one must consider the fact that without a lyric, one relinquishes

    the
    > possibility of the use of prosody; that-is performing the music so as to
    > take the lyric literally. The simplest example of this being the music
    > stopping on the word "Stop" which happens in countless songs. "Stop...In
    > the name of love."; You gotta stop...children, what's that sound,

    everybody
    > look what's goin' round."
    >
    > Man, I better get a prize for this...
    >
    >

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